I think you'll find that pilots do themselves no favours by jointly sharing the pain. We end up losing the jobs and the pay. I think it is better if managements think they can cut jobs to let them go ahead and do it- if the business needs the extra jobs, then they will be employed. 'Sharing the pain' with equal pay cuts all round may look attractive, but those jobs will go eventually anyway if the business won't support them. Call it selfish- I call it realistic (BA- we 'shared the pain' with no/poor pay deals, now the job cuts are on us anyway- 400 fewer. So did we do ourselves any favours?)