PPRuNe Forums - View Single Post - BA Pilots to ballot for strike over OpenSkies
Old 27th Jan 2008, 13:00
  #308 (permalink)  
Hand Solo
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Camp X-Ray
Posts: 2,135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I trust you have looked at the BALPA books and have evidence that BA pilots get the lions share of resources, or are you just shooting from the hip?

Re the BMI CC:
An interesting mix of interests are represented. Mainly an interest in weedling their way into management via selling their colleagues down the river in order to gain favour.
Well who voted for them? BMI pilots surely? If your company council doesn't perform then get rid of it! We have had a 'Night of the long knives' in BA in the past when those we felt were more interested in representing their own interests than ours were purged, much to their shock. It worked for us, perhaps you should try it.


About time BAlpa head office did their elected job and revised the whole corrupt and ineffective (outside of BA) mess.
Well there has recently been a big change at the top of the NEC, but notwithstanding that the leadership has to come from your own company council. If they tell head office there is no appetite for a fight then it's not head offices job to refute that.

Apart from that obvious point, aren't we all in the "union" together, then? Don't you have any concern for your bretheren in bmi? Aren't you worried that BAlpa resoures are being unfairly allocated? Aren't you concerned by the precedents set in bmi?
Yes we are in the union together. Yes we are concerned for our brethren in bmi. I don't know if resources are unfairly allocated within BALPA, but I know the BACC has to fight for funds from head office and we take out a lot less than we put it in subs. And yes, we are concerned by the precedents set in bmi, and other airlines, but what do you think BA pilots could do about it?

I'm sure it's very comforting to be able to blame BALPA and BA for all your woes, but everything that has been achieved by the BACC in BA has come from the BACC: pay reform, pensions, Scope, rostering reform. It's all come primarily from the BACC with admin and some negotiating support from BALPA head office. So just to clarify, is your complaint that BALPA head office turned down the BMI CCs request for admin and negotiating support, or that the BMI CC didn't have the cojones to stand up to the company?
Hand Solo is offline