And the limitation section states the minimum number of pilots is 2, right. Whats your problem? At cx relief crew will sit in empty cabin crew seats for t/o and ldg to make way for jump seat pax occasonaly. It sucks, but it gets the jump seaters on. Maybe qf so's contribute more to the t/o and ldg than ours. I always thought relief crew were there to allow for an extension of the flight/duty limits. Just looking at it from the outside.