Ups! sorry if i hurt your feelings, maybe just maybe I was not really clear, the difference between a DEC and the upgrades from inside the company is very different, WHY? because if you have been flying enough as you say and you have CRM, you know that we learn from the people that has been flying long enough in the region, on the particular type and will give you the do's and dont's. So if you add this to a high time F/O you will have a great CP. But in the opposite you bring a guy because he has more than 500 pic on a jet, and some other company took the chance with him, you will see the results that QR has had in the last two years, and just read again I have flown with excellent f/os who really deserve a shot in the left seat, they gave me my chance for comand looong ago my friend,