Keg- The reference you are looking for is Lk 6:41-42 and The Message gives a contemporary feel to it. Your point has been demonstrated perfectly across the last 150 odd posts as each person tries to scramble for the higher moral ground and in the end we all just sound and act like each other. Maxautobrakes suggestion of the get together reminds me of the Christmas truce of 1914 where the troops on the Western Front just got sick of fighting each other and for a period of a couple of hours met in no-mans land and discovered that the people on the other side were just like them. Lets hope the Australian airline pilot fraternity can avoid what came next.