I do remember the Dove or Heron parked at Lovely Banks in the 70's but never saw it fly. Had no Idea about the Fishermans Bend run though. I'm trying to scan a photo from an article in a Geelong rag of Jack and 2 other old Captains infront of the 690 at what looks like YSBK on their 1st flight. Photo is vpoor, names and 3/4 of the article is missing. The old guy I got it from said the run to YSBK was only on a regular charter basis, as Jack didn't have Reg 203 app!!!!! He also said Jack did have airline experiance, but cannot recall who for??? He then went on and on and on about Jacks Carby Icing Theory but I had to leave and go to work, so that one is for another day.