Get Professional Help !!!!!!!!!!!
I have been watching the progress of this thread from the start and can no longer refrain from posting.
The first post suggests that the JPA have sold out the new hires for some benefit to themselves.
If that is the true facts, is must be the most shortsighted, selfish and reprehensible act that any "negotiating team" could put to the pilot group, especially under the present situation of a serious pilot shortage.
Any suggestion of the JPA that they negotiate a "C" scale should be voted down 100% by the pilots.
What the hell are these characters thinking... can they begin to think of how these junior crew will have little respect for them and how that can affect the flight deck dynamics.
It has been suggested that the "generation Y" don't deserve anything better and whilst acknowledging that some seem to think the world owes them, they are trying to make their way in this industry the same way we all have, and it is incumbent upon any negotiating team to ensure they get the benefits we have.
Have the JPA ( assuming they are senior pilots) forgotten how difficult it was for them when they started their careers.
The question must be asked, "how close are the negotiating team to the management"???
It also seems from other posts, that the pilots will have only 2 weeks to digest, discuss and get independant advice on the proposed EBA before they are required to vote. This is a common tactic by the HR (Smiling Assassins) department as it gives the employees little time to "get organised"; for you are all flat strap flying, no doubt.
The negotiating team and the pilots they "purport" to represent must have a very good perspective of what makes the Smiling Ass's on the other side of the table tick, and the difference between the professional values of the opposing sides.
The pilot's..... it is a southeasterly stream in SYD, bucketting rain, low cloudbase; you get to the minima and see nothing but a grey opaque and the rain hammering on the windshield - missed approach. Directed to a holding pattern where the F/O feverishly works out a latest approach time before diverting to CBR, where the weather is not much better. Captain checks the numbers, ok.
ATC give you a second approach with 2 min's to spare; at the minima the Capt' sees 3 bars of the approach lights and lands at the max x'wind component on a wet runway.
Taxying to the terminal, the F/O looks across and says, "well done Captain" and the Capt' replies "great support mate, I think you are ready for that command training".
Walking side by side through the terminal and watching their pax being happily greeted by friends, they quietly reflect on how close those pax were to ending up in CBR where their was no accomodation and would have been faced with a 3 hr bus ride back to SYD.
The S Ass's....... well, at the end of the day they are down the pub bragging to their S A friends how they will be able to report back to Dickson, Oldmeadow and Joyce how they were able to keep the Jet* pilot wages at a below inflation 3% and Ha Ha Ha, even got them to sell out the new hires to a "c" scale.
Do these S Ass's have any loyalty to the Company? Not on your life; they will be off as hired guns to the next highest payer, using their results from previous negotiations as their leverage into other jobs.
So what must the JPA and the Jet* pilot's do?
First off, forget the idea that you can match the S Ass's; you are professional pilots, they are professional negotiators, trained in the psychology of negotiating and getting the upper hand over employees.
Next , vote down the EBA 100%.
Next, get professional industrial lawyers to assist .
Some posts have suggested the Jet* pilot's join AIPA; WHY NOT???
The IRC has given AIPA the right to industrial coverage of all Qantas Group pilots.
Obviously by doing that, the IRC recognised the benefit that could be gained to Qantas Group pilots by having a single professioal organisation represent them.
Those 2 pilots that flew into Syd........... does it matter that one may have been involved in an industrial dispute almost 20 yrs ago or the other is the son/daughter of a pilot who was.........the answer should be , NO!!!!!!!!
They did a professional job and had mutual respect for each others experience and skills.
It is high time that we get on with our jobs, and those older of us, that have gained so much from this wonderful industry, do our utmost to support, nurture and ensure that those that follow us have a liveable and comfortable future.
IT IS SURELY TIME, THAT QANTAS GROUP PILOTS COME TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD.
Role on......