Wow, you guy's certainly get riled. What I don't understand is why haven't we had multiple Chinooks throwing themselves into rocks. There was plenty of evidence to show that the aircraft was in a high pitch and power setting, rotated nose up just before impact and impacted at high speed. The nav system was accurate. There were witnesses in the area. It seems that none of you will accept the obvious, that clearing the pilots names has become an obsession. To restate an earliier contributor, what were they doing at that speed, at that level in those conditions? If they had any technical failure then they didn't give themselves any room for manouver. This was not a hostile operation, they had the option of re routing, slowing down or following the coastline. John Day was an SH comander in Ireland, he knows about operating helis in bad weather. He and Wratten had no axe to grind here, they would not deliberately endanger this or other heli crews on this or other Chinook operations by trying to cover anything up. Flying the Chinook in 94 was no more risky than any other SH heli. The Flight safety manual does not lay down the law. And far to many selective quotes gentlemen, you'll be believing the Sheriff and the House of Lords soon as fonts of wisdom in matters aviation.