Continuing the thread od what you get for your monies. The big problem for most non LHR / LGW USA flights is the cost of the operation. It does not matter how good your service is you have to compete £ for £ and the huge pressure that will be applied to all carriers come the 'open Sky' later this year will make the market impossible for the niche player. I wonder if EOS and Silver took account of the Bermuda agreement and perhaps saw no agreement for a few more years, allowing them a longer honeymoon period. With regard to the service provided by the majors that in itself is not the real issue as most night flts USA - UK there is no service - Club or First?