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Old 28th Dec 2007, 01:46
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Zhaadum
 
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Several situations regarding aeronautical experience people may have
when they get their first IR-C-ME(A) are possible here.

Part of the aeronautical experience requirements for the IR-C-ME(A) is:
10 hours total night flight and of this not less than 5 hours as PIC in the
category of aircraft for which the rating is sought (aeroplane).

You cannot get a IR without this night experience unless you have a MEDICAL reason limiting you to day only ops.
It could be just circuits, the CAO do not specify what exactly.

For these situations let us assume recency, I am only talking about aeronautical experience requirements here.

Situation 1:

With the above you can fly SE or ME :

IFR Day or Night, (by virtue of IR, CPL and A/c Endo)
VFR Day, (by virtue of CPL and A/c Endo)

You cannot fly NVFR, you do not meet the aeronautical experience for a NVFR rating (IE NVFR Nav training)

Situation 2:

With the above plus the NVFR Nav training specified in CAO 40.2.2 Appendix 1, you can fly SE or ME:

IFR Day or Night, (by virtue of IR, CPL and A/c Endo)
VFR Day, (by virtue of CPL and A/c Endo)



NVFR, private and airwork as long as you meet recency requirements too.
(Note, you do not have to have sat the flight test for NVFR however if your IR lapses you can't fly NVFR at all).
You cannot do NVFR charter.


Situation 3:

With the above plus the NVFR Nav training specified in CAO 40.2.2 Appendix 1,
and having also passed a SE NVFR flight test, you can fly SE or ME:

IFR Day or Night, (by virtue of IR, CPL and A/c Endo)
VFR Day, (by virtue of CPL and A/c Endo)



NVFR, private and airwork as long as you meet recency requirements too.
(Note, that if your IR lapses you can still fly NVFR but only SE. The reason is that you have to pass a ME NVFR flight test to upgrade to a ME NVFR. The specific item from the ME flight test that you have NOT done in your SE NVFR flight test is an Engine Failure in cruise at or above LSALT.
The fact that you may have done heaps of them in cloud during your IR training and IR flight test is irrelevant. I agree it probably SHOULD be relevant but that is the way the CAO is now.)
You still cannot do NVFR charter.

Situation 4:

With the above plus the NVFR Nav training specified in CAO 40.2.2 Appendix 1,
and having also passed a ME NVFR flight test, you can fly SE or ME:

IFR Day or Night, (by virtue of IR, CPL and A/c Endo)
VFR Day, (by virtue of CPL and A/c Endo)
NVFR, private and airwork as long as you meet recency requirements too.
Now if your IR lapses you can still fly NVFR SE or ME.

You still cannot do NVFR charter.

Situation 5:

With the aeronautical experience in situation 3 or 4 plus the following:

Charter flights under night V.F.R. procedures, provided the following
aeronautical and recent experience requirements are satisfied:
(i) Aeronautical Experience. The pilot’s aeronautical experience shall
include 10 hours cross-country flight time using night V.F.R.
procedures including a minimum of 2 navigation exercises (of at
least 300 nautical miles or 3 hours duration), as either pilot in
command or in command under supervision. Each exercise shall
exceed a distance of 100 nautical miles from the point of departure
and shall provide at least 1 landing at an aerodrome other than that
of departure, located in an area remote from extensive ground
lighting.
(ii) Recent Experience. The pilot’s recent experience shall include
3 take-offs and landings by night within the preceding 90 days, and
either a night cross-country flight (of at least 100 nautical miles or
1 hour duration) within the preceding 6 months or a flight check by
night with an approved person also within the preceding 6 months.

This experience is IN ADDITION to the basic navs you would have done on
the NVFR training and they are PIC or ICUS not Dual like the training was.

You can now fly SE or ME:

IFR Day or Night, (by virtue of IR, CPL and A/c Endo)
VFR Day, (by virtue of CPL and A/c Endo)
NVFR, private and airwork as long as you meet recency requirements too.
You can finally fly NVFR charter (ME only).

Now everyone is totally confused aren't they?

Z.

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