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Old 24th Dec 2007, 00:31
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Wine Glass
 
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Dick,
the engine failure scenario you described is a world away from the engine out contingency being mooted in this thread. An engine loss and descent from flight levels from overhead a suitable airport (albiet with smoke) is not in the same league as losing a donk shortly after T/O in your typical GA twin. Marginal excess performance, high weight (take-off, remember), struggling to maintain blue line and get the ship in order, AND not drop in on the dunes or water will eat up most of the situational awareness of any pilot...doesn't leave a lot remaining for the lookout of someone else crossing your path on upwind who is too impatient to hold for a couple of minutes whilst a commercial operator gets airborne.
I'm not diminishing your experience in your Citation - well done for getting it down - but it is not the same as the scenario in this thread. Any attempt to represent it as such suggests that perhaps you are disingenuous or being naive in this instance.
I've had serious engine malfunctions in both scenarios (heavy weight upwind and at flight levels) and they are different beasts entirely.
410's post on 21/12 (first paragraph) hits the nail squarely on the head.
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