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Old 19th December 2007 | 04:31
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kuwait340
 
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Speed Control Phraseology

Hello...

couple of days ago....during the descent into the home-base...

the approach controller instuction was like this " (CallSign)...descend alt 10.000ft then reduce speed to 250kts.when reaching 250kts descend 5000ft" .

there after ..while passing 7000ft...he said "when reaching 5000ft reduce speed 220kts.when reaching 220kts descend 3000ft".

is this the correct way of doing it ?

in my opinion...i think it would have been better in the first clearence to say " (CallSign)...descend 5000ft .speed 250kts below 10.000ft" as simple as this .

in the second clearnce ...i think it is better to be like this "descend 3000 speed 220kts" .

because i know this controller...after landing i called him on his mobile phone to tell him that this is my first time to hear clearnces like this .

he said this is the standard way of doing it...i said...you sounded like you want us to level at 10.000ft..reduce to 250kts...THEN ...descend to 5000ft.

and he said...yes ..i want you to level off !!

then i said why you want us to level off...he said...to reduce speed ...better than reducing while descnding...i said...why do we have to level off to decelerate...we can do it on the descent...he said...i have to do it this way because i don't know this aircraft can decelerate while descending or not(he said ..i am not sure that everyone can reduce speed while in the decsent without leveling off).

he said also ...that this procedure is written down in his ATC manual.

is that true ?!

and is there any official manual where i can read the correct speed control phraseology ?

Thanks in advance.
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