A cursory look into the Fragrant Harbour forum finds some ex MH people involved in some kind of power struggle and vendetta. Semi-private mail from MAPA forum was used to stir up ****. Another kind of MH/M'sian malaise. Likewise that's what I hear about MH blokes in EY and EVA. Over in Jet Airways and KAL I heard some formewr big guns were trying to upstage Richard in Mumbai. Not nice at all!!!!