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Old 11th Dec 2007, 22:39
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WhaleFR8
 
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Just a couple of points.

The first is that Polar had a code-share agreement with Qantas not block space and not ACMI. They were ill equipped to do what Atlas is doing now which is to open up markets that Qantas would not have access to.

Secondly, Polar NEVER would have gotten started themselves if it were not for Southern Air Transport.

Next is the fact that the original Polar was never designed to make money. It was designed to generate revenue from some old clapped out lease returns to Polaris leasing which was part of GE capital. Old Jack Welch decided to put the airframes to work instead of letting them rot in the desert.

Another point of fact is that NO non-integrated cargo carrier has ever made money unless they were also heavy into ACMI which Polar never was and which the Polaroids think is terrible (unless of course they want it).

Finally, as a stand alone Polar was within a month of bankruptcy when Atlas bailed them out - the Polar pilots have had jobs for the last six years that they would not have had and they haven't thanked Atlas - so why is it they want Atlas pilots to thank Tower?

Just another example of the whacked out thinking coming from Green Turtle Key.

Uncle Bobo Wrote:
The merger has not happened and whether it ever happens is currently in the hands of an arbitrator to decide.
Not true. The merger is GOING to happen. Whether the Polar pilots will be a part of it is in the hands of the arbitrator
The entire question comes down to whether or not Polar's scope clause in their currrent contract will be honored and complied with. Nothing more, nothing less.
Actually not true either. The ENTIRE question rests in the definition of complete operational merger. The Polar scope clause says nothing about certificates - so the arbitrator gets to decided what is a complete operational merger. To date Atlas has combined virtually every aspect of the operations with the exception of the pilots. I would say that is a complete operational merger.

Polar wants their contract to be abided by and Atlas wants to strip Polars scope clause out, merge and get the seats out of the projected DHL windfall.
The Atlas pilots want nothing of the sort. If you make it to the combined seniority list the windfall will be yours also. Also keep in mind that the DHL contract was negotiated by and for ATLAS AIR Worldwide Holdings. As far as I know no Polar management official was even involved. Why - oh yeah that whole complete merger thingy. Sorry Bobo - you lose this arguement.

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