Oceanic Clearance - unfortunately you appear to be reinforcing the previously stated views that pilots from Southern Europe appear to be more concerned about avoiding personal embarassment than improving flight safety. You wrote:
Was anybody (excepting LTD) in Boston that day????? NO! So what the hell are you discussing????
We are now discussing an official ATC recording of somebody alerting an Iberia flight, and Boston ATC, of a potentially lethal flight condition and a breach of FAA regulations. Now you either think LTD was lying to Boston ATC, for some unknown motive, knowing that those lies would be recorded, or LTD was genuinely reporting snow on the Iberia wings, in which case there is something wrong with the operational procedures for that particular flight.
Should any plane T.O. with snow or ice? - I'm absolutely sure they shouldn't. No possibility of discussion!
Very good. It's good to hear the view that flight with contaminated wings is a bad thing rather than the view that because they got away with it it must be OK.
Should a pilot post the number and airline of a flight that has done a mistake (or not) on a public forum? NO! LTD did an awful job!
If you had bothered to read the full thread, which you clearly haven't, you would know that LTD did
not post the flight number. He named Iberia, which is perfectly reasonable in my book. I believe it was Dinger X who identified the particular flight number after reviewing the Boston ATC R/T recordings, and the moderators who changed the thread title to identify the flight. LTD did a fine job in alerting the Iberia crew to a potentially dangerous condition, regardless of whether they chose to act upon the information or not.
Should any pilot initiate a National Crusade against Iberia - Spanish pilots? - Of course not! We are coleagues up there. NOT ENEMIES!! Doesn't care where we come from!!!!
It certainly doesn't matter where people come from, but if a particular airline adopts a cavalier, if not outright dangerous approach to de-icing then it's fair game to alert everybody else in the business to their practices. This industry is not a secret sect where bad practices are swept under the carpet. You might also like to consider that Iberia aren't having a great run of things on the A340 fleet at the moment. Two incidents at Quito and now a potential catastrophe at Boston would suggest to any independent observer that there is a possibility that operating practices maybe aren't what they should be. It took a hull loss at Toronto before Air France accepted that they could do things better and they made positive efforts to identify best practice in the industry and learn from it. Will Iberia be taking an objective look at how they operate and identify what has gone wrong on these occasions?
I don't know how many CRM courses do you get on BA....but maybe they are not enough, or maybe you are still in Cockpit RM or Cabin RM! Open your eyes....you are not the aviation.....you are just an small part of it!
Interesting to see your closing comments follow the traditional Latin pattern of attacking the messenger. Does it matter if the reporter was BA? Had the information come from a Lufthansa or a United pilot would it have changed it's significance? CRM has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. This is not about massaging the ego of the Iberia crew. This is about alerting another crew to a the unsuitable flight state of their aircraft. Why the Iberia crew chose to depart with snow on their wings perhaps would make for an interesting CRM study.