The rates of pay for new starters will be about 34K for F/A 55K for CSS and 70K for CSM. These are salarys based on 240 hours per roster, however crew on the new entry conditions will average about 220 hours.
Overtime at double time will be paid between 12 and 14 hours and double time and a half will be paid after 14 hours. New crew and A380 will not be paid Long Range Allowance as well but the overtime provisions as aforementioned will be paid.
New crew will not be able to apply for CSS for 2 years and 4 years for CSM. Any crew fromm current long haul that go to A380 will work under the hours and work rules that will exist there, but will essentially take their current incomes with them through a salary top up arrangement negotiated as part of EBA8.
In relation to the conduct at the FAAA meetings it would be fair to say that members and officials can get animated and passionate, but i dont believe that anyone has been insulted or shouted down as has been suggested.
There have been a few members that have had a concluded view about the EBA before coming to the meetings and have made comments that have been inconsistent with the truth or more importantly the FACTS.
The comments made by nite walker are in that context. That is not to say that we cant all try to remain calm and polite whether FAAA official or member and the point is taken
However nite walker please be aware that there are some who want to see the EBA defeated for "political reasons" and are being deliberately misleading at the meetings and this does tend to imflame passions.
The FAAA officials stayed for 5 hours on Friday i am advised to remain until every member had their questions answered. That has never ever happened before, and on that basis flight attendants can be sure that no attempt to railroad crew will take place