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Old 8th Dec 2007, 19:52
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Pegasus747
 
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to the last poster..


Go back to the table????? You must be kidding

The FAAA has been putting this EBA together for 2 years. It links all 7 previous EBA's into one EBA.

It provides that All new aircraft that Qantas flys internationally will be flown by current long haul crew under their current hours and money.

The Labour goverment wont change any laws that would affect this EBA for at least six months and even then there is nothing better that we are likely to get out of Qantas than we have got here.

The last poster is clearly a short haul flight attendant who wants the EBA defeated so that the introspective and short sighted among them will get a chance to grab the 787 and more international flying.

99% of crew in Long Haul are intelligent enough to see our position and make sensible decisions. they know that this is a great EBA considering our circumstances and they will not listen to the likes of crewbunkbonker who doesnt know his ass from his elbow.

They certainly wont listen to former failed FAAA officials who arent even FAAA members and are more opposed to the current FAAA officials than the EBA itself.

If anyone here thinks that they can do a better deal than the FAAA has done then they can approach Qantas for an AWA .....they are still legal and if the genuises our there (that form a small noisy minority) are so smart lets see what you can get for yourself.

The FAAA have had a QC and one of the toP IR Barristers as well as the FAAA lawyer and three senior officials negotiate this EBA. If they recommend this deal as a good deal then i would suggest that it makes sense to listen to them.

To anyone that has an opposing view that's fine. You then need to suggest what leverage that crew have to get something better????

The only thing that would be better would be if the A380 was just another aircraft that we flew. That is NOT going to happen. Qantas has decided it will be another DIVISION and the FAAA have negotiated tranfers rights for Long Haul Crew with Salary protection.

If the EBA goes down Qantas will still have the A380 as a different work force as the law allows it. WHat is guaranted in that scenario is that the 787 is then up for grabs by the A380 group or short haul. Furthermore, no new aircraft will come into the Long Haul arena and we will slowly dissappear with CR over the next couple of years as our work would be given to others.

The company has agreed to cap overseas crew numbers as part of this EBA. If its defeated then there will be no limit to overseas crew or promotions in NEW ZEaland. The 80 CSM positions and 160 CSS positions just advertised will be cancelled , the regional flying will stay with short haul and long Haul crew will then look for someone to blame.

The only difference is that they wont know WHO to blame because the opposition is ANONYMOUS....and if you understand what i have just said you will know WHY they will want to remain ANONYNOUS
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