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Old 8th Dec 2007, 19:44
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nite walker
 
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crewbunker

Er ahhh have you been paying attention to anything that is happenning around you mate?
Forget the faaa guys, observe these few points.
previous officials one mentioned earlier(LD) agreed to a foreign cap of 870. Not Mij or Reed other officials who were good guys.legal advice was there was nothing they could do to stop it.
This was the beginning of the Thai basing, it was then joined by the kiwi base.
The london base then became reality. Because of the precedent agreed to by the former officials ( they were told by legal advice they could not stop this either.). Mij couldn't stop the London base. He did put out several news letters requesting that we do not apply. This was ignored as you would know.
Yes people wanted to go over on bugger all pay and no conditions, it was life style.
Meanwhile short haul agree to an eba which effectively gave them our regional flying and reduced our band payments if we transferred across.
Mij did get us access(exclusive to the A380) as part of that div flying agreement. For Mij to get our regional glying back appreciating that a #&&%tload of 787s have been ordered he had to re - open the div flying agreement.
So now you say lets vote no and go back to the Company and they will give us the pay and conditions we deserve.
Crew bunk you ought to go into comedy.
We all know what we deserve and it has not been any of the above!
As Hawke said earlier Rudd is not going to help us other than make sure we cant be sacked and replaced by cheaper, and we cant be forced on contracts.
What will happen if we vote no is we will be left on the 747 until it dies off. end of story.there is nothing stopping the Company giving that aircraft to CCaustralia to operate, then the company could argue because there are no 747s for us its redundancy time. Not much we can do when jetstar crew have created a new entry wage into international flying and short haul have a better formula for regional. I wonder if short haul would agree to long haul flying in their next eba?
going back to the company and arguing for what we deserve might be morally right but if you look at the landscape surrounding us its like your suburb is surrounded by fires and you want to argue with the council on better fire restrictions and burning off. Its too late, you try and protect your house with a hose and rudd(the firbrigade) might help.
They will put the fire out but he wont help you rebuild whats been burnt.

Crewbunk you sound very naive to the machinations of how all this industrial stuff works.the company have had almost 1000 mam casuals ready for this eba(cabin crew australia) and aussies have had to live in NZ to fly for qantas.

You think we vote no and swan back into the company and they will give you what you (we ) deserve.
For sure they will but i dont think it will be what you expect
Go to a meeting , ask your questions. By the way doom and gloom aside after shaking my head when reading your post it did make me smile
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