TD thanks. There is no-one on this thread who is not desperately sorry for your loss and for the loss of the other 13 good men.
To the rest of you: Jesus can you guys not stop bickering. Everyone wants the best out of this sorry mess. Why keep sniping at each other?
For what its worth, IMHO as an obvious and self-admitted non engineer current or otherwise, the point Oilcan makes is one of the most important things to come out of the QinetiQ report and one I hammered earlier in the thread posting mentioned by DV.
Lets be clear, it is the fractionalisation of the RAFs Engineering support and the corresponding disolution of responsibility that is the real issue here.
Spot on. This is the most worrying thing in the supposedly irrelevant QinetiQ report. Does anyone here seriously doubt that if the Nimrod Support Group had been an RAF engineering team there would not have been any question of the IPT not knowing the full extent of the leak problem, and the RAMS not being told that their APs were out of date? You dont have to be an engineer current or otherwise to work that one out.