IO540, you are correct, I agree 100%..... I'm not questioning the IMC rating, as I said, it should be mandatory for a PPL issue in my opinion, great rating and as many have been quick to point out very safe. Let's not forget the title of this thread! It's not about IR vs IMC although I got sidetracked, it's about people venting anger that the french won't let them fly instruments in their airspace with an IMC.....WHY SHOULD THEY?? IT'S NOT AN IR, IT'S A UK ONLY QUALIFICATION!!!