It looks like the moderator has spoken just before I posted this. It is important not to let emotion cloud posts or analysis.
Regarding rational....
Originally posted by bsieker
I'm starting to wonder if you have a serious problem understanding written words.
I think we'll have to just agree to disagree on how we interpret this. No need for further discussion on it. Perhaps something to do with mother tongue language.
Originally posted by bsieker
It can be argued just as soundly that the DHL crew's action were extremely dangerous. Had they not followed the RA, no collision would have occured.
Sort of similar to the car that runs a red light at a busy intersection and smashes into traffic going through the green light. If only the cars going through the green light had not done so, there would have been no collision. They were behaving extremely dangerously. Traffic lights are dangerous.
Originally posted by bsieker
You also repeatedly ignore that fact, that they received the ATC order, and started manoeuvering according to it, before they received the RA. Meaning they never initiated a manoeuvre opposite the RA.
The TU-154 AOM stated that manouvering opposite to the RA is PROHIBITED.
That means initiating or while following ATC instruction. Are you sure it is me who has a serious problem understanding words?
Originally posted by bsieker
And in case it got lost again: We do not advise not to follow an RA, even if you seem to think so.
Good. But please be more specific(I know it is just placement of words) butthis is important. Do you advise pilots(excepting stall warnings, GPWS, etc) to ALWAYS FOLLOW THE RA? Please reply.
Finally PBL...
For much of his posts now he just accuses me of being abusive. Once again Mr. Moderator, please let me know if this is so in your opinion and I will apologize. (edited later-the moderator has spoken)
PBL is correct on some things. I have never taken a data analysis course and don't plan to. I don't know what a confounding factor is. I know almost nothing about algorithms but do know how to spell it( and I think they can be used to solve a Rubik's Cube). I'm not even sure what perjorative means. Most pilots that I fly with don't know much about algorithms either. I'll ask around to see if many have taken a data analysis course.
But I do have something that much more important to a pilot than any of these things. I have common sense. One of the most important things a pilot can have. I hope this is not still tedious to you.
I also know, well, I suspect that there is no technical data or engineering facts on the relative safety manouvering visually around TCAS RA traffic at night. Just blind assumptions and we will never see any engineering facts unless it is somehow hastily created. I was accused of not answering a question. How the tables have turned.
So seeing as I agree that this dicussion isn't really going anywhere, why don't we end it. Perhaps a lock on the thread after bsieker lets us know if he would be willing to say "GPWS and stall warnings exluded, we recommend that pilots always follow the RA"