From an (ex)FJ point of view the 10 was the best. Both have their good points and I always found it interesting sitting underneath the mighty tri-motor. After many times behind both on trails, training and ops I have to say that the biggest difference I have found was in the attitude of the crews. Before I start I will quantify things by saying that in general both sets of crews were very professional and it was probably just a few isolated incidents which have coloured my perceptions. I found that VC10 mates had more of an operational, lets do what we have to do to get the task done and we'll pick up the pieces later. Tri-mates (on more than one occasion) said - too difficult we're off to the hotel/diversion or sometimes bar/beach. The attitude of the 10 crews I worked with, on and off, for 4 years in Turkey was spot on.. . . . <small>[ 08 March 2002, 13:15: Message edited by: Flap62 ]</small>