Here are some stats on the first 18 months of air-air combat in SE-ASIA, not including the C-123 T-28 shoot down in Feb 64
Apr-65 to Jul-66
VNAF downed 23 US Aircraft. Icluding one Drone
18 by Mig-17 - Cannon
1 by Mig 19 - Cannon
3 unknown, but at least one was Mig 21 - Mar 66
US losses, were by significant type were
6 - F-105D
6 - F4
2 - F-104
4 - F-8/RF-8
US downed 26 aircraft.
25 Mig 17
1 Mig 21
7 kills by cannon,
1 by manoeuvre
18 by missile
F-4' scored 16 kills
F-8' scored 4 kills
F-105 cored 3 kills
A-1 got 2
And F-100 got one
Yeah, yeah, I am sad Air power history geek! But judging by the 5 or 6 e-mails I have some people a re interested.