speedbird lgw, can i sniff some of the air you are breathing? The chances of Cityflyer being incorporated into mainline is minimal think about it, BA have the advantage of not having to give mainline terms and conditions , pay etc etc.and still have the BA name at LCY. Anybody who is thinking of joining Cityflyer always remember it is a wholly owned subsidary and there is NO right of transfer into Mainline it is not the ticket to a life of long haul and sunny climes.