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Old 5th Dec 2007, 19:24
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Pegasus747
 
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Clearly none of you guys have been to any of the FAAA meetings. Once you have done that or at least had a conversation with the negotiating team you will be significantly better informed.

The EBA is a proposed document that you will get to vote on. If it is rejected thats democracy.

We will then be back where we started... No Access at all to the A380.

Under this EBA all new aircraft that come to long haul except for A380 will be flown under our conditions and on our salarys and on our bidding system. This EBA is complicated because it is so comprehensive.

The only way you will understand it is by attending FAAA meetings or talking to a members of the FAAA negotiating team until such time as you get the document and the attached letters from Qantas,(which will be well before you have to vote on the document)

Quite frankly if crew vote this EBA down then the long Haul Division will only have 747 aircraft, no regional flying at all, no accesss to A380, no bidding system at all (even in 747 land) as the juniors will not have any new recuits underneath them and will then pressure the Company to get rid of it.

Further more, Qantas has set up a new Company QCCA to employ new staff. At the moment that subsidiary company will be a party to our New EBA and new crew will be employed in our eba and be junior to us and be part of our eba on some revised conditions (still excellent and better than Jet Star intl).

That new company could then employ new staff and be given whatever flying qantas wants to give them and if we were lucky we might get whats left.

there would be redundancies and new starters would probably get all the LA flying on the 747 for the foreseeable future and anything else that Qantas wants to give them.

This EBA puts that scenario to bed for at least 5 years and in all probability permanently.

Go to the FAAA meetings and stop talking to ppl who havent been because they are talking total garbage. If the EBA goes down it would be a total disaster for Long Haul Crew.

The ONLY crew that are driving a no vote are the un informed and short haul crew.

Remember ...if this deal goes down then short haul start negotiating with Qantas as soon as our EBA is done and dusted. If ours is dead then Short Haul can have whatever they can negotiate because all of our gains in terms of new aircraft and flying in this EBA will be lost

I implore you to attend FAAA or even Company meetings...if you dont and dont get the right info the Long Haul Division with be finished
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