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Old 5th Dec 2007, 10:11
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keesje
 
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Thnx for the responses!

In the picture on the right side you can see the Greenliner is a bit wider then the A320.

It has two aisles for short routes & faster (de)boarding; 30% of the middle seat can fold up, as indicated at the picture. That creates about 10 additional cross-over's. when two stairs / gates are used this should really speed up the process and short haul / leisure operations.

The single aisle variant offers superior seat comfort. The middle seat offers an unsurpassed 23 inch (including armrests) and the aisle window seats a still very good 21 (incl armrests) compensating for long flights in a relatively narrow cabin (compared to 767/ 330 / etc). The 757-200s used increasingly transatlantic (Co, NW, AA, DL, US) offers a critical narrow 17 inch with shared armrests..

I think the 787 is a great plane but its 110tons empty weight prevent it from becoming efficient for short haul. As a reference the 757-300 weighs 65 tons, 40 metric tons less then 787-8. That 40 tons equals the weight of ~400 passengers including luggage...

Lets not forget the 787 is a serious 9 abreast widebody that fits easily 330 seats in single class, so about 50% more then a A321 in single class. The 787-3 is still 100 tons and uncompetitive heavy compared to even older generation aircraft like the A300 and 767.

Both the A321 and B787-300 are not transatlantic / medium haul. The 787-8 is very long haul which translates in its high empty weight / installed thrust.

I think an aircraft like the Greenliner would offer significantly lower CASM then 787/ A330/ like aircraft on medium routes were lean passenger operations are more important then cargo.

I think there are at least 1600 757/767/a300/310 that need to be replaced in the next decade. Intra Asia, European and US coast to coast like operations require new fuel efficient aircraft. IMO neither the 737-900ER, A321 or 787-3 do cater for the required growth, range and efficiency.

Contraryto the 737/757 this aircraft can carry the NB containers / pallets used on the a320 series. It's a long fuselage, many should fit in.

Last edited by keesje; 5th Dec 2007 at 10:20. Reason: spelling
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