The big problem in these discussions is that the people are incapable of separating a proper IR (FAA or JAA)from the IMC
I agree, and which it was never intended to be.
I may be important to educate them first. Then press them for the evidence - which I dont believe exists.
You just dont learn - do you?
Everyone else is trying to have a serious discussion about something important. At least on this occasion do try and join in and not spoil it please -leave the fun to an appropriate thread. It is the usual differences and people trying to be clever that means we never achieve anything.