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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 08:29
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planeenglish


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My bit...again

Hello everyone,
Good job Farrell, nice to "see" you again. I have been posting on this forum for ages about the new LPRs and no one cared.
Well, for any of you who care you can hear what all levels sound like here and see how they are rated. This is a cd-rom issued by ICAO through voice samples sent in by teachers and testers like me. http://www.ulc.gov.pl/download/ICAO_LPR/
The document 9835 is being revised and should be released for distribution around Spring. Some slight changes have been made.
To Alpine Flyer, the grace period is not necessarily for those countries who chose to ignore the new standards. However, it will be those slackers who profit. The inability of larger countries who are trying to meet the standards to meet the 2008 deadline has prompted this "extension" of sorts (China has been trying to get compliant since early 2000 but there are so many pilots and ATC it is taking oodles of time). ICAO recently issued the mandate on what a country must do to if it is impossible to become compliant by 2008 ie, NOTAMS and AIM. This gives people who didn't know that in 2003 these standards were in place time to get compliant.
He who is deemed level 4 today still has three years to demonstrate level four if he is not then the CAA should not allow him to operate.
I have tested hundreds of pilots from over 20 different language backgrounds and the results show 64% are not compliant. It takes about 200 study hours to get from one level to another. (This is a rough estimate.) Of those there were Austrians, French, Swiss, Italian and various other countries which you list below as countries whose people usually speak English well enough.
For RYR-738-JOCKEY: It all depends on your CAA and which license you fly on. I know that there are very few compliant tests for pilots now and I know that some European countries have chosen their compliant tests. My CAA is in the process. Some CAA's have decided to perform their own test on site or have delegated FTOs or other institutions.
I have been busting my butt trying to inform people on these standards and how to get compliant for years. It's about time it is taken seriously.
Best to all,
PE

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