Jaap, PtS, almwsop,. .Jaap - do make clear your previous army experience v age, they like a well reasoned argument as to why the age ceiling should be breached. Who knows, you might just get by. If you go the Admin route, please stay clear of b*ll sh*tters calling themselves Gurus!!. .. .PtS - Again, a good case of age v specific experience that the RAF may consider to be a good "training risk". . .. .almwsop - STOP. Do not start training as a WSOp if you really want to be an ALM. It is extremely difficult to change once you are in the training environment, and almost impossible once you have graduated. The posting options have been well documented in other threads, suffice to remind you, Kinloss is still 180 miles (by road) NORTH of Edinburgh. I have had a wonderful time at "ice station kilo" - but it can be a tortuous time for many. One final observation for you - your occupation, SNCO........ not yet!!. .. .Advice to all of you.... check the "AA Visit" thread for contact numbers. Do speak to Sqn AEOps/ALM for more info. Get as fit as you can before OASC and the AAITC, and good luck to you all.