Beagle - I agree that the board needs to find the cause, but as that is taking nearly 2 years on average, surely it is appropriate that operators of similar kit, in a similar location should seek information, rumours, news etc so they can form their own opinions and perhaps take appropriate action in order that the same does not befall them?. .. .I notice that following an accident/incident on a civilian machine PPrune has all sorts of info to assist nosey blerks like myself but following a military one it is lets all keep quiet. Freedom of speech I say and lets all learn from events that thankfully didnt happen to us.