Tucano, the ex civ FI you mention was on my JEFTS course and did indeed have to do the whole course as I understand, with the exception of the standard "15hrs +" amalgamation of earlier instruction. He did extremely well (and is also a diamond lad) and is soon off to Valley. Budgie, this may suggest that you'd have to do all of JEFTS also. Best of luck!!. .. .Rgds. .BL