Wow, Latin, BEagle - since you have these foreign tongues, even more reason you should be first Eurofighter Sqn Boss <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .Can you clear up the Rubicon quote - is it "Alea iacta est" or "Iacta alea est"? I've seen it given both ways...