Max - I may be a minority amongst stackers (tho I think not), but I'd really love to say 'yes' to every request for kit, especially to those who need it to do their job. What gets my goat is when those who do not need such specialist protective equipment, and let us not forget that, purloin it for their own use. When highly paid help decide all stewards at certain secret Oxfordshire bases should wear flying suits that they were NEVER scaled for, a huge number of flying suits vanished from the system. You do the sums. Since those early days of this thread it has degenerated into childish banter - one of the reasons I read PPRUNE. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />