I humbly bow to the pprune great and good for putting a miserable old fart such as myself firmly in his over inflated place.
forget, joetem etc. I apologise profoundly.
Will thrash myself with a birch for the rest of the week.
mumbo jumbo
The next thing is we have them (pilots) telling us about how to chock the a/c.
If that is referring to me I resent the remark as I'm not a pilot. (Which when I think about it makes my load of old bowlarks look even worse).