Admin guru I agree that there is no reason for aircrew to be elitist but your us and them attitude is cringeworthy. Let us get on with our job to the best of our ability and we'll let you get on with yours. I take offence at your implication that we don't do anything all day- get a life and check out some of the current deployments. As my IOT flight commander (an adminner and a good chap)said- the job of the airforce is to fly and fight, the job of those who don't is to support those who do. End of rant