So spoilt tom - anyone who complains about their lack of success is copping out? that is why you are a civvy now? That is why you can comment about service themes now? that is why you tried the army for three years before the RAF? Copping out? you would know about that. I think the shut up or your copping out mentality you display coupled with the do as I say not as I do ethos is exactly why SAC Smith is leaving this joke of an organisation