I now seen a bitching few posts directed at a few guys that fly the jets we are on about , Id just like to say lay off these lads , they are the ones that choose no matter what to fly , they take that risk with information from the people that know what they are on about. Ive had 17 years as an engineer on these jets and i with my hand on my heart have no isssues with the a/c, other things yes , but thats a diffrent matter. You all sit there and question that you know it all , if you a part of the kipper fleet then yes you have a right to say things that are of concern ,but 90% on this thread dont they speculate and think they know it all. nimrod has problems like all A/c in the inventory, its not down to being a bad aircraft its about spending cash , if you want it to work then spend enough and it will , we all know its not the case.