Uncle Peter. .. .Thanks for posting the Hansard reference, very interesting. I also found Robert Key's comments quite troubling. . .Lewis Moonie's comments, as Parl. Under Sec. of State, seemed to indicate a complete lack of understanding of the burden of proof required for a finding of gross negligence, to quote:. ."the essence of the judgment of gross negligence was that all the available evidence indicated that the pilot flew a serviceable a/c at speed and at a low level into cloud covered high ground" . .Anyone else find this a bit of an own goal on the MoD's part?