Oh dear! Have just read through all these posts and have come to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that today the RAF, in general, mirrors our society. I did my service (20years) in the '50's thro' early,70's and boy did we winge. Officers, messing, pay, work hours, bull

, you name it we winged about it, it was our right!

But it was all hot air in the crew room and generally went no further. Then, winge over and feeling far better, we all got on with the job.

Today, it seems the 'somebody owes me' mentality reigns supreme. Chaps you disappoint me, if you can't take joke...................................!