Originally Posted by pilot-br
...and it seems that they don’t agree with you.
Of course it doesn't agree with me or anyone else that flies professionally for a living for that matter. Based on the information we have received so far from all the leaked reports by the Brazilians tasked with investigating this collision we are now told that the pilots were responsible for not correcting a bad clearance or adhering to a flight plan.
This just stinks of a smear campaign to incriminate the pilots because of deficiencies in the Brazilian ATC system. We, the professional pilots are, according to the leaked information, expected to read back a clearance which is then accepted on read-back and then analyze it for inconsistencies AFTER it has been accepted. On top of that, the Brazilians expect us to then go fly and whilst en-route, in a supposedly radar environment, to change flight levels whether or not we can talk with ATC even though the clearance we read back and was accepted on read-back, stipulated no level change.
Please, spare us the anguish at being berated for just being the messengers of this daft information. It reeks to high heaven of a corrupt, inept and downright dangerous administration of a third world, tin-pot air traffic system. Banana republic attitudes to blaming the 'foreigner' for the ills of their own inherently dangerous failings in some belated attempt to deflect blame or scrutiny.
Just so as it has a remote chance of sinking in... we read back a clearance and unless the controller points out that our read back is wrong we then have to assume that it was given correctly in the first place In addition, if we are cleared to our destination and only given one flight level then we stay at flight level until ATC advise us otherwise. We do not start climbing willy nilly just because the flight plan said so. That's all it was... a flight
plan. The clearance from ATC is the final instruction on what to do and if they fcuked it up and didnt catch it on the read-back from the pilots then it is ATC who are at fault.
No amount of argument, especially from "non-pilots" with absolutely no grounding in aviation law and the day to day operation of jet aircraft will convince anyone else on here who happens to make their living by flying aircraft professionally, to change their minds. Even those with ATC experience are pointing out the holes in the leaked reports which make it even more obvious that there is a corrupt attempt to cover up the deficiencies in the Brazilian ATC system and to lay blame elsewhere. Pathetic.
