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Old 11th Oct 2007, 19:08
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Magplug,
you should be an airport designer with your ingenious solutions!
simply build a taxiway that goes around 23R... im sure the fully loaded air china cargo would appreciate seeing an emirates 773 crossing beyond the far end of the runway as he attempts to stop the thing! Have you ever heard of a stopway? Maybe just shorten 23R to what, lets pluck a number, 1500 metres.
Every airport is different. Gatwick has lots more taxiways, Heathrow departures from T1,2 and 3 do not have to cross any runway (excluding 23!).
The taxiway system at MAN is complex and cramped, therefore it merits the introduction of any reasonable trial which is aimed at improving safety.
quote magplug:
"Every pilot knows that you cannot cross red stop-bars without explicit clearance - this is day one stuff." - Day 1 of what? The course on how to be an imbecile?
Hands up any Heathrow ATCO or LPO who has never had an a/c cross a red stop bar!
Quote:
"Go and spend some time at Heathrow or Gatwick to see how the pros operate."
There are quite a few ex LL & KK ATCOs at manch, being employed and trained by the same company.
Finally, since when does the number of a/c movements dictate how likely you are to see a runway incursion?
I have no evidence to support this theory but I believe it is exactly at times when the airfield isnt maxed out and the ATC workload is just simmering down that you are likely to relax and hence risk an incursion.
(getting bored and wont bother with details)
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