Must be fun living in your little conspiracy world. So are BA negotiating, or a have they decided? They can't be doing both. What if BALPA undercut BAs forecast cost base? You certainly live up to your username here! Some of us are getting rather tired of your selective and frequently innaccurate quotes from BALPA. BALPA have said nothing, zip, nyada about the negotiations and thats for a very good reason. If they started responding to angry demands from information from people who think they have a right to know it then regardless of the damage it would caue we really would be in trouble.