as i originally asked the question, is it as it seems , mainly down to the atmosphere which i suppose is created by the comitee? I realise the newly formed comittee seem somewhat out of touch with the rank and file , so maybe it's time to for members not to be brushed aside by those who would like to think they know better.This club not so long ago was buzzing!, the aircraft were always in use(not lined up as now), the instructors were always on the go, a brilliant place! lets get it back to that!!!!!!!!And funflier44, unfortunately, clubs do need a membership, and they do need to be profitable, otherwise you a'int going to have a sherburn to fly into!!