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Old 4th Oct 2007, 09:57
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Originally Posted by armchairpilot94116
Running into EMAS is still an over run and therefore an accident/incident. In BOAC's camp on this one.
Then check out the definition of "Aircraft Accident" on p2 of FAA Order 8020.16, at
http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff.../media/AAI.pdf
Designation as an accident requires death or serious injury to at least one person, and/or substantial damage to the aircraft. What constitutes "substantial damage" is determined a posteriori. For example, the pictures of the wrecked wheels on the United AC that landed with parking brake set, referred to on the recent BMI/parking brake thread near the beginning, do not count as "substantial damage". Neither did the incident with the A320 that landed at LAX with the nose wheel at 90° to the runway (videos on YouTube). I doubt an EMAS arrestor incident would could as an accident per se.

It doesn't suffice just to have an "opinion" on something. Where there are documents, precedents and protocols and substantial engineering knowledge it is unhelpful to discussion to just go around making up one's own meanings for terms.

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