Tin, I'm all with you on the improvement of pay and conditions/treatment etc blah! My comment was more directed towards those who meet experience requirements but don't get a slot for one reason or another. If I were an employer I'm sure I wouldn't be employing everyone who comes in for an interview even though they might meet the mins. There is an extra performance and 'X' factor there that some may be missing. And I certainly think that 'expecting' to get the job just because you meet the mins is probably misguided. Extrapolating that to a generational thing is an unfair broad brush stroke but hey, what's PPRUNE whithout a bit of sparring and baiting!