sorry my mistake 161 lol I'm really relating to all of these posts its great to hear about other people having this problem and their own solutions to it. I'm flying on tuesday an hour in the circuit at carlisle so I hope I can try a few of your tips then.
Knight Paladin my instructor doesnt try to make me look out of the side window (sorry poor explanation on my part) he makes me look forward but around the panel rather than directly over it. this is because I was suffering from the problem that kiwi chick pulling myself forward but for a different reason, purely to see the runway!
Anyway its been a great response thanks for all your help, happy landings! (I hope mine are on tuesday lol)