The past few group of exco's,vice pres.,pres. of mapa have their weakness but the toad and gang were the worse because they affect alot of pilots and when they got the managment post for selling out the pilots, they made it worse by turning the screws on the pilots working condition. At least the new guy at mapa has some sincerity ,trying to do sometime good for the pilots. Just remember who the toad's salesman was, who con alot of junior pilots to vote a certain way.