Kabong, you forgot to mention Alteon are 10-15% dearer than QF for less help.
Xkred, yep, that was a rant alright. Both Alteon courses I have done in the last 2 years did'nt come with manuals 'til after I got there. Still I spose if I was'nt spoon fed I could have studied on the internet or Discovery channel.
Apart from that, the thread is " which course is better ", and since QF " spoon feed " people as you so eloquently put it, for around 5K less, I guess for those of us who are " average " QF is better
return rant over.