It would be great to think that all joins and circuits would be confined to the ATZ (if one exists) or a similar amount of airspace if no ATZ. After all thats the purpose of the ATZ -for the protection of traffic within, and circuit flying should be taught as such, unless noise abatement reasons make "standard" circuit a no-no.
This used to be normal practise, and often non radio. Aircraft have become easier to fly, so whats changed ?
( Long final - between 4 and 8 miles )
