PBL, you're not a pilot either, very hard to discuss this with non pilots.
And yet he seems to have much clearer grasp of the relevant issues than many of us who are.
Personally I've already learned a great deal from this thread, found many new sources of information, and been presented with many new considerations about how things are and why from posters like PBL, PJ2 and bsieker, among others. Simply reading and thinking critically about what is passed back and forth here is an exercise in safety education that can benefit everyone in the industry and in so doing fulfill one of the site's founding purposes.
How about we don't diminish that with below the belt shots, especially ones aimed at someone who is bringing a truly valuable perspective to the table?
Deal?
ELAC